INTERVIEW
TO ENRIQUE BOSTELMAN
BY ELISA RUIZ FROM CONACULTA, AUGUST 22, 2003
Oaxaca, Mexico. - Next o a hot cup of coffee, a small city
map is explored by Enrique Bostelmann’s hand. He comes
back after thirty years and fins that things have changed.
“When I came to Oaxaca there were no museums or galleries,
and getting around was easy” he says, taking his coffee
cup as he stands up.
He was born in Guadalajara in 1939. He has won several International
awards such as the Casa de las Américas, the Geomundo
and the Kinsa awards. Bostelmann belongs to the generation
of Mexican photographers who, during the 50’s and 60’s,
made pictures of the Mexican rural areas walking them inch-by-inch.
Due to his German ancestry, his blonde hair attracted the
attention of the townspeople. “People who used to want
to pay for getting their picture taken now asked for “one
dollar” , and called me names like fucking gringo, straw
head, corn hair, everyone thought I was not a Mexican”.
After 30 years, Bostelmann comes back to Oaxaca for a conference
on visual arts and the opening of the “Silver on Zoology”
exhibition -with ten other artists of the National creators
fellowship-held at the Santo Domingo cultural centre. This
show included pictures of Manuel Álvarez Bravo and
Mariana Yampolsky who, like Bostelmann, traveled throughout
Mexico “looking for the light”
Photographers traveled because the world is light, we searched
for the light. Now life takes place in the evening, in poky
little rooms, while smoking marijuana cigarettes. Photographers
do not go to the sierra of Puebla anymore, they go to Cancun
or Acapulco and at the most take the picture of someone’s
backside”.
“It not easier because of the airplanes or cars, but
it used to be safe, if you went to the Huasteca region, people
did not allow to be photographed because photographers used
to charge them. Now it is the other way around, they want
‘one dollar’. The further away you were of the
so-called ‘civilization’, the safer you felt.
People were very hospitable, we would arrive by foot -sometimes
we had to walk 50 kilometers in a day- and people wouldn’t
let us leave; ‘Stay’ they said’ we’ll
kill a lamb for supper”.
“Man had a closer relationship with nature in those
days. I belonged to The Explorer’s Club of Mexico, it’s
members knew every mountain in the country and every language.
When we visited a place we would write down the directions
to get to it in a little book. Photography was an adventure”
With images from those days, Enrique Bostelmann has prepared
an exhibition for INBA (National Fine Arts Institute) “Recovered
Time: A cartography of Imagination” and a retrospective
exhibition in Mexico City on September.
Though he makes it clear that his photographic work is not
over yet. Despite not traveling as frequently since “one
makes up one’s world according to the age”, he
is currently working in Mexico City with several artists such
as writers, painters and sculptors in multidisciplinary projects.
“The eye becomes very sharp with time. Nowadays, I am
drawn to the small nameless objects that express a man’s
way of being. After taking pictures of so many people one
starts to feel repetitive, we see the same expressions of
joy, sadness, amazement in everyone. These gestures are universal
even reiterative. I wonder, How can I talk about Mankind through
its objects? I try to interpret everything through a different
media”.
Bostelmann, who has had exhibitions in Europe, Asia and South
America is currently working in the book “Post No Bills”
which will compile150 images from several photographers. This
book will be published by Universidad Autónoma Metropolitana
of México.
“Elena Poniatowska gave me the spoon used by his father
in prison. I came up with a concept, so I looked for the right
lighting and cast a bar’s shadow over it . Luis de Tavira
gave me a tiny music box; Carlos Monsivais owner of quite
a few cats- his studio reeks of them -, gave me a Garfield
doll; Carlos Montemayor , who writes about guerillas, gave
me a bottle with land from Crete; Vicente Leñero gave
me the original copy of one of his writings and a tiny toy
typewriter his daughter gave him as a present; Emilio Carballido
gave me a lilac typewriter given to him by Salvador Novo,
which is so old you can not see the letters anymore. These
objects, when seen I detail , are a universes revealing their
owners. A small key or a shoe cease to be objects and become
landscapes”.
This project keeps him quite busy, not only because of the
photographic work , but also because the texts that each artist
has to write for the book, he has to be in touch with all
of them and that means he has to get around all over Mexico
City everyday.
He has no intention of retiring . “When one gets involved
in something, it becomes life itself. That's what happened
with Alvarez Bravo, Yampolsky, Nacho López. Picasso
died working at 95, Rossini and Verdi died writing their music.
Retirement is for people with day jobs. Those of us who work
for fun for the joy of it all never retire”
I take this opportunity to give a word of advice to photographers
attending courses at the so-called “active” photography
schools, participating in contests with portfolios that are
full of diplomas and course certificates but hardly have got
any work in them. I honestly say to you that I have little
communication with other photographers because photography
is like a funnel, small on top, wide on the bottom, we all
can take pictures, there are automatic cameras, but there
are only a few that use the camera like a sculptor uses a
chisel or a painter a brush, very few are interested in art
in general. They go to “active” photography courses
to get a little diploma. I have been a judge in these contests
and I received portfolios thick as telephone books filled
with diplomas and course certificates, but when you look at
the pictures…it doesn’t make any sense. I say
this to you: Work harder and forget about the diplomas!! |